"I pushed back my merchandise drop because I was really unhappy with the quality and there was a lot of people not on bar stool there was just other people that were a part of it in manufacturing being like this is great let's put this out and I'm like no I would not wear that that's dog shit or that's also just like selling ourselves short and then just trying to like make money off of something I actually want to I want to know I would wear this every single day." — Alex Cooper
"I am envious of people who of people who don't have social media." — Alex Cooper
"I need to let go of um hmm what do I need to let go of I would say like being embarrassed of my younger self and for so long in my career this is so pumpkin stupid but like I was so nervous for like my ugly pictures to come out and my ugly duckling phase and and I that's on so fucking dumb but like everyone's got that like insecurity that you like try to hide from someone..." — Alex Cooper
The episode begins with the host, Alex Cooper, expressing excitement for an upcoming interview with psychotherapist Esther Perrell, author of "Made in Captivity." Cooper shares a personal anecdote about mispronouncing a name during a previous advertisement and clarifies how podcasts generate revenue through advertisements, not by paying guests. This leads into a discussion about the "Where Should We Begin?" game created by Perrell, where Cooper plays by answering prompts about personal stubbornness, difficulty saying no, and the challenges of people-pleasing.
Cooper delves into her evolving role as a podcaster and business owner, discussing the stress of managing a company, partners, and maintaining product quality, citing a delayed merchandise drop due to dissatisfaction with its quality. She reflects on personal health topics, including sleep habits, her mother's use of CBD gummies for insomnia, and her father's experience with a sleep apnea machine. The host also touches on her fertility concerns and potential willingness to share that journey with the audience.
The latter half of the episode features Cooper discussing past insecurities, her evolving relationship with her sister, and her journey toward self-acceptance, particularly regarding her younger self and body image issues. She also shares an anecdote about a past crisis involving nudes that she confided in her friend Laren. The episode concludes with a preview of an upcoming episode featuring Laren discussing why she deleted her social media, followed by the Esther Perrell interview.