Call Her Daddy
Call Her Daddy
"I don't need to do that. I just think, listen, if you feel like you're, you process shit alone. I think especially for women, you almost feel like what's, why do I not want to like you do? Or you're being guarded or you're like, no, secretive. It's so not everyone's fucking different. Like if you don't feel like sharing, you don't have to." — Jackie Shimmel
"Don't say everything happens for a reason or you will get slapped. Everything happens for a reason. Thank you. Thank you, Katie. Have fun with your mom. Like shut the fuck up. Don't do not anything that is on some spiritual religious bumper sticker." — Jackie Shimmel
"I respect it because I think it takes a level of I don't know the word. Like, it's really a ballsy move that I don't think a lot of people could pull off." — Alex Cooper (referring to Jackie's fabricated college diploma)
The episode opens with Alex Cooper and Jackie Shimmel discussing the origins of their friendship, dispelling notions that it might seem unlikely. They delve into their personal histories, with Jackie sharing humorous anecdotes about her past, including a fabricated college diploma from UCLA and a less-than-ideal academic record, highlighting a theme of embracing one's less-than-perfect journey. The conversation then shifts to more profound topics, including navigating grief and loss, with both hosts sharing personal experiences and offering advice on how to approach these difficult emotions. Jackie emphasizes the importance of not dwelling on the "grief follower" mentality and advocates for living life fully, while also cautioning against platitudes and unhelpful comments directed at those experiencing loss.
The discussion takes a turn towards fashion and personal style, particularly the controversy surrounding ankle boots, ignited by a previous guest. Jackie and Alex engage in a lively debate with Morgan Stewart via phone, clarifying their stances on ankle boots and the nuances of styling them. This lighter segment provides a contrast to the heavier discussions on grief, showcasing the hosts' ability to blend personal and pop culture topics. The episode also touches on the concept of "mean girls" and insecurity, with both hosts agreeing that such behavior often stems from personal insecurities rather than genuine malice.
A significant portion of the conversation revolves around Jackie's vivid and humorous retelling of losing an expensive Zimmerman dress that flew out of her convertible on the freeway. This anecdote underscores the episode's overarching theme of finding humor in life's mishaps and embracing imperfections. The episode concludes with reflections on self-worth, the importance of self-compassion, and the idea that while everyone faces challenges, the way one chooses to navigate them, often with humor and authenticity, is what truly defines them.