"I just want to like to do what I wanted. I don't know, just like go, um, I don't know travel and go places and do things without having like because if you ask your parents for money, like you need their permission, right? You're just going to whatever you want." — Anna Sorokin
"I never like intended permanently to permanently harm anybody, you know, I literally cannot come up like with a single example when I'm like yeah, let me f*ck this person over and they'll never see like they money ever again." — Anna Sorokin
"My goal was never to get away or like not to get caught. So, like I even like hear people in jail say, 'Oh, I have like you want to have that good of a criminal because you didn't get caught.' It's like I never tried to be that way." — Anna Sorokin
The podcast episode features an interview with Anna Sorokin, widely known as Anna Delvey, conducted from her correctional facility. Host Alex Cooper questions Sorokin about her identity, her alleged European heiress persona, and the methods she used to deceive investors and defraud hotels in New York City. Sorokin discusses her childhood, her aversion to authority, and her early aspirations in the fashion industry. She recounts her move to New York, her adoption of the Anna Delvey name, and her strategy for inserting herself into the city's elite art and social circles, including fabricating financial documents to secure investments for her art club concept. The interview also touches upon her arrest, trial, conviction for grand larceny, and subsequent prison sentence.
Sorokin reflects on her experiences within the correctional system, detailing her daily routine, the assistance she received, and her interactions with other inmates, including murderers. She addresses the public's fascination with her story, the portrayal of her accent, and the dramatization of her life in media, particularly the Netflix series "Inventing Anna," expressing that many aspects were fabricated. Sorokin maintains that her intentions were not malicious, and while she acknowledges her actions were wrong, she differentiates her behavior from that of a con artist aiming to permanently harm individuals.
The conversation further explores Sorokin's relationships with her family, her feelings about deportation, and her desire to move past her crimes. She expresses a hope to turn her story into something positive and discusses her ongoing projects, including writing a book and working on a podcast. The interview concludes with Sorokin asserting that her goal was never to avoid getting caught, but rather to pursue her endeavors, and she does not consider herself a con artist due to her lack of intent to cause permanent harm.