Last Podcast On The Left
Last Podcast On The Left
"I think the truth that Jeremy is telling about some of that is going to come out. But it's hard to tell only part of the story. Can you say we've got flying saucers and not spill the rest of the beans about where they came from? It's going to be hard." — George Knapp
"The one word that stood out to me during that statement you were making is the word if, because isn't that the ultimate crutch of all of this if they're telling the truth?" — Henry Zabrowski
"We're going to report on that. I do think that it is it kind of puts a pin in this idea that these aren't ours so it opens the idea of what we need to find out." — Jeremy Corbyl
The episode begins with hosts Jackie, Ben, and Henry introducing their guests, Jeremy Corbyl and George Knapp, hosts of the podcast "Weaponized." They immediately delve into the burgeoning mainstream interest in UAPs, with George Knapp reflecting on his decades-long involvement in the field and the challenges of gaining serious journalistic attention. Jeremy Corbyl shares his personal journey into UAP research, initially driven by a curiosity about scientific claims, which evolved into a more active investigative role. Both guests emphasize the difficulty in separating credible information from speculation, a sentiment echoed by the hosts.
The conversation then explores the implications of governments and military entities acknowledging UAP phenomena. George Knapp discusses the complexities of national security, where revealing too much information about advanced technologies could benefit adversaries. Jeremy Corbyl highlights the pragmatic reasons for UAP research being conducted by private corporations and defense contractors, citing the need for secrecy and potential reverse-engineering efforts. The discussion touches upon the historical secrecy surrounding UAPs and the current shift towards greater, albeit carefully managed, transparency.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to recent events, including the alleged shooting down of unidentified objects. The hosts and guests express skepticism about official explanations, suggesting these events may be more complex than presented. They discuss the idea of a "drone cold war" and the concept of transmedium travel, where craft can operate in both air and water. The guests also touch upon the "Baghdad Phantom" and the 2019 swarm events, emphasizing the evidence they have gathered and the effort to verify information from multiple, independent sources to counter misinformation and avoid being manipulated into promoting a false narrative. The conversation concludes with reflections on the personal impact of this work, the challenges of perceived government surveillance, and the enduring mystery of the UAP phenomenon.