Last Podcast On The Left
Last Podcast On The Left
"I think they see the world from outside of the stream of time. And therefore, I think it's really difficult for them to experience anything new." — Whitley Strieber
"We're creatures of novelty above all. And that we might become obsessed with it no matter what, that they might not even be able to control that about us, that we would end up like worship of them anyway, and electing one to be president and putting them on mass singer and all that shit." — Ed Larson
"They want to be enriched by this planet, which is probably one of the, if a lot of species have group minds like that, this planet could be one of the richest places in the universe, because there's not a group mind here." — Whitley Strieber
The episode features an in-depth interview with Whitley Strieber, a renowned author and experiencer of alien encounters, conducted at the Contact in the Desert convention. Hosts Marcus Parks, Ed Larson, and Henry Zabrowski engage Strieber in a discussion that moves from lighthearted banter about the convention and past interactions to the profound implications of his experiences. Strieber elaborates on how his understanding of the UFO phenomenon has evolved since his initial public disclosures, emphasizing that these encounters are not merely physical but deeply transformative, suggesting that "the visitors" perceive time and reality in a way that makes experiencing novelty a significant draw.
The conversation delves into the nature of these beings, with Strieber positing that they might be partly biological and partly mechanical, requiring specific elements like copper for sustenance, which could explain phenomena like cattle mutilations. He touches upon the idea that "the visitors" may be ancient, highly intelligent, and possess a collective consciousness, potentially lacking the human capacity for individual creativity and innovation. This leads to the theory that they might be drawn to Earth for its unique biodiversity and the sheer complexity of individual human minds, which offer a contrast to their own seemingly singular, evolved consciousness.
The discussion also explores the potential motivations and messages of these entities, including warnings about nuclear weapons and environmental degradation, underscoring their potential interest in humanity's survival. Strieber shares personal anecdotes, including his interactions with other notable figures and his evolving perspective on the phenomenon, advocating for an open-minded yet critical approach to understanding these complex encounters. The interview concludes with a segment of "Spicy Times," where Strieber attempts to answer questions while consuming increasingly spicy wings, highlighting his grace and willingness to engage with even the most lighthearted aspects of the discussion.