
Call Her Daddy
"We've always had that like great indetermination. Like, we might not always be the best at the certain things we do. But like, I know we apply ourselves and work harder than most people at the things we care about." — Drew Taggart
"I think the spontaneity of the whole thing was amazing. There was zero expectations." — Alex Pall (referring to a memorable sexual encounter)
"I think the biggest thing is, you know, I've really enjoyed just being calm and appreciative and being able to like, you know, help people with opportunities that you really is insanely generous to everybody and hosting people. It's actually crazy." — Drew Taggart
This episode features an in-depth conversation with the musical duo The Chainsmokers, delving into the intricacies of their decade-long partnership. Alex Pall and Drew Taggart discuss their early days, from meeting through their manager and forming the group, to their initial aspirations of becoming the biggest artists globally. They touch upon the challenges of navigating fame, including managing fan interactions and public perception, contrasting their early "party-centric" image with their current, more mature outlook. The conversation highlights their communication styles, with Alex being described as hyper-communicative and Drew as less so, yet both emphasize their alignment in goals and conflict resolution.
The discussion then shifts to personal growth and relationships. Both members reflect on sacrifices made for their careers, such as missing personal events, and the evolving need to balance their professional demands with their personal lives. They share anecdotes about past relationships, acknowledging that they often dated individuals who were compatible with their demanding lifestyle. The episode also explores the concept of personal evolution, with Drew discussing overcoming insecurity and Alex detailing how overcoming early life challenges, including the loss of his father, catalyzed his drive. They also touch upon managing romantic relationships alongside their demanding careers, emphasizing the importance of partners being supportive and having their own lives.
A notable portion of the episode revolves around humorous and sometimes shocking personal anecdotes, including Drew's elaborate story about discovering his ex-girlfriend was spying on him via a pet camera, and Alex's tale of a past relationship ending due to extreme and bizarre circumstances involving Craigslist and a "peeing on people" ad. The duo also candidly discusses past experiences with infidelity, both giving and receiving, and their approaches to handling such situations. They also address their creative process, fan interactions, and the evolution of their public persona, concluding with their advice on confidence and self-expression, particularly for women.