Call Her Daddy
Call Her Daddy
"The most rebellious thing you can do is stay soft. Don't let it harden you." — Alex Cooper (referencing advice from Pamela Anderson)
This episode features a profound discussion between Alex Cooper and Olivia Wilde, offering an in-depth look into Wilde's transition from acting to directing, her critically acclaimed film "Don't Worry Darling," and the intense public scrutiny she faced during its release. Wilde shares her personal journey, highlighting how she navigated personal turmoil, therapy, and self-rebuilding to emerge as a stronger, more authentic individual. The conversation touches upon the nuanced portrayal of relationships in her film, drawing parallels with the work of relationship expert Esther Perel, who served as a consultant. They also explore the societal double standards applied to women, particularly mothers, in their personal and professional lives, contrasting them with the expectations placed on men. The discussion highlights the challenges of maintaining individuality and authenticity when facing relentless media attention and public judgment, emphasizing the importance of self-awareness and vulnerability.
The interview delves into Wilde's upbringing, the influence of her journalist parents on her curiosity and intellectual development, and her early career struggles, including a surprising marriage at 19. A significant portion of the dialogue focuses on the pressures women face regarding their appearance in Hollywood and the broader societal tendency to police female sexuality and choices, especially after becoming mothers. Wilde shares candid reflections on her experiences with public perception, career shifts, and the empowering realization that directing offered a new avenue for growth and longevity in her career. The conversation underscores the resilience required to navigate public life, the power of supportive relationships, and the ongoing journey of self-discovery and personal evolution.
The episode concludes with a powerful exchange on the complexities of marriage, desire, and the importance of open communication. Wilde discusses the evolution of her views on marriage, inspired by her film's themes and her personal experiences. They also touch upon the challenging experience of co-parenting and the societal judgments that disproportionately affect women in similar situations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of remaining hopeful and self-aware, even in the face of significant adversity, and the continuous effort required to understand oneself and build healthy, authentic relationships.