"I don't feed off the energy of the crowd. It is not a drug to me." — John Mayer
"Being a famous guy is like being a hot girl. Okay, well, let me bring up my next question." — Alex Cooper
"I don't really live exposed to all of it, I don't quite feel it and I'm okay with it because it's linked to something that I have to do anyway." — John Mayer
This episode features a candid conversation between Alex Cooper and musician John Mayer, delving into Mayer's personal and professional journey. Mayer reflects on his high school years, describing himself as introverted and focused on music, a path that was met with discouragement but ultimately fueled his determination. He discusses how his early career was characterized by a need to prove himself and a sometimes "obnoxious" confidence born from pushing against resistance. The conversation touches upon the evolution of his songwriting, with Mayer explaining that many of his iconic songs are inspired by emotions and experiences rather than specific individuals, emphasizing that his music often serves as a "waypoint" for listeners to connect with their own lives.
Mayer also addresses his public perception, particularly regarding his relationships, acknowledging the "America's ex-boyfriend" persona as a construct of his public roles. He shares his perspective on fame, noting that his current ability to pursue any creative idea is the greatest reward, and that he has actively sought to "manufacture irrelevance" in certain aspects of his career to maintain his authenticity and focus on his craft. This includes a significant shift away from relying on external validation and a more deliberate approach to relationships, valuing depth and long-term potential.
The interview further explores Mayer's experiences with anxiety, how it influenced his songwriting, and the personal growth that has allowed him to navigate misunderstandings and public scrutiny with more grace. He discusses the importance of self-awareness and the courage to "retreat" when facing overwhelming external pressures, contrasting this with the common tendency to "eat the monster that's trying to eat you." The conversation concludes with Mayer sharing insights into his current creative process, his decision to release music song by song, and his deep connection to the act of songwriting as an anchor in his life.