Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
"Which is I lied, you know? And however the fuck these emails, you know, got leaked, this was a catalyst to be facing my reality, right? And so, I do want to make this fucking clear this day. Like, I know I am on today. You know, I'm on today because-- What did you lie about? I lied about being on steroids." — Brian Johnson
"You know, the root cause of most oral issues have to do with our nourishment and mechanical loading. And so most people aren't eating liver. They're not getting bone marrow. They're not getting what they need from a yolk or the sun. And so how do we get that shit in a capsule?" — Brian Johnson
"The problem with creating the mask out of the cartoon is, they don't have feelings, they don't have family, they don't have emotions to the consumer, right?... And that is-- You look kind of similar. The benefit of being Captain Crunch is you can be everywhere. But the problem is nobody gives a fuck about your feelings." — Podcast Host
The episode features a candid discussion with Brian Johnson, known as the "Liver King," who addresses the controversy surrounding his alleged use of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs). Johnson admits to lying about his steroid use, explaining that leaked emails became a catalyst for him to confront his reality. He articulates his motivations for the deception, which included a desire to protect his core message about ancestral living and a belief that his personal PED use was irrelevant to that message. He also reveals deep-seated insecurities stemming from childhood bullying as a driving force behind his pursuit of an idealized physique and persona.
The conversation explores the societal impact of social media influence, particularly concerning idealized body images and wellness claims. Johnson acknowledges that his misleading portrayal of how he achieved his physique may have misled his followers, leading to criticism. The podcast hosts and Johnson discuss the importance of vulnerability and the potential disconnect between public personas and real-life struggles. Johnson shares deeply personal stories about his past, including childhood trauma and family struggles with mental health, to contextualize his actions and emphasize the importance of his ancestral living philosophy as a means to combat widespread societal issues like low self-esteem and despair.
Towards the end of the episode, Johnson commits to discontinuing his use of PEDs and hormone replacement therapy, stating his intention to "go natty" to further promote his message of ancestral living authentically. He reflects on the financial and health implications of his past choices, acknowledging the need for professional medical guidance and expressing a desire to prioritize his well-being and family relationships over his public image. The conversation concludes with a focus on the fundamental principles of ancestral living, emphasizing mental liberation and genuine connection over purely physical aesthetics.